For the most part, there are almost no restaurants I am not willing to visit. From the street vendor (far too few in Vancouver, in my humble opinion) to fast food chain restaurants (I did visit McDonald’s for my Smore’s and Brulee McFlurry posts!) to “casual dining” (whatever that means) restaurants to fine dining. If it is food and I have the cash to afford it, chances are I will go. Of course, unless, that place is in the middle of nowhere (or Richmond!). And, as the name of this blog implies, I am only there for the food; the rest is something I can live with our without.
So, that begs the question, would I return to a restaurant that I have mentioned I won’t go back? Unfortunately, chances are there might be some chances. No, I am not flip-flopping on this now. The truth is that things might have change since my last visit and it can go both ways. Good restaurants might have gone south while those I did not like have improved. Furthermore, some of the restaurants I do not like, unfortunately, are places where people like to gather (mainly because their location and layout favours this type of activities). I might grumble about their selection but, between not meeting them and choosing to give them a second chance, I think I will rather meet them – after all, friends can last a lifetime while restaurants might come and go.
So, that begs the title of this post. Has any restaurant banned me? While I am sure some restaurants can guess who am I, so far, no restaurant has put a mug shot of me saying I should not be allowed in. Instead, in a fashion similar to that of casinos, i.e., where you can tell the local casino/gaming commission to not allow you in, I have decided to ban myself from certain restaurants in Vancouver. In some cases, it has nothing to do with food, rather to something that they did during one of the greatest moments (if not THE greatest moment) of this year (if not for the next couple of years) – The Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympic Games.
What? What some restaurants did? OK, lets quickly reminisce… A couple of weeks ago, I wrote a post on restaurants people outside of Vancouver should go to eat during the Games. However, thanks to a comment, I was referred to a page mentioning some “interesting” practices of these restaurants. Likewise, local TV and newspapers started to notice a particular behaviours from some local restaurants in the Downtown core and Yaletown areas. What specifically? That of mandatory tipping and, worst of all, price gouging. So, in reference to that post…
- An article in The Globe and Mail from Alexandra Gill, the newspaper’s food critic.
- A site maintaining a naughty or nice list of restaurants.
- An article (and video) from CTV.
The most interesting one is the second link, where an actual list was compiled. I still haven’t received permission from the owner of the site yet to do a full copy-a-paste of the list with explanations for each entry but, in the meantime, here is the list (as for exactly why, please check the link above).
- Academic Public House
- The Hub
- Fairmont Hotel Restaurant
- El Furniture Warehouse
- Cafe Crepe
- Lolita’s Restaurant
- Society Dining Lounge
- Section 3 Restaurant
- Bean Around the World
- Cafe Medina
- Simply Thai
- Moxie’s Grill
- Granville Room Bar
- All Glowbal Group Restaurants
- George Lounge
- Chambar Restaurant
- Lickerish Restaurant
- Morrissey Irish Bar and Restaurant
- The Keg
- Cactus Club
- Hapa Izakawa
- Cambie Bar and Grill
- Earls Restaurants
- Red Card Sports Bar
- Elephant and Castle
- Glowbal Grill Restaurant
- Steamworks
- Megabite Pizza
- Library Square Public House
- Hamilton Street Grill
- Dix Brewery BBQ
As mentioned previously, the issues are related to mandatory gratuity (sometimes not even informed to the customers) and increase of price. So, let’s tackle them separately:
Mandatory gratuity: I have written a blog post in the past (check it here) so feel free to take a look at it. The main argument for this practice during the Olympics was that visitors from other countries who are not used to tipping might, well, not tip at all, which short changes the waiters and waitresses (and who knows who else). In my previous post, I have made reference to that culture of entitlement, i.e., you are NOT entitled to tips. But, see, here is the curve ball against the restaurant’s line of thought: weren’t your restaurants packed full (specially those that are in the Downtown/Yaletown area)? Even one restaurant bragged about it! If so, doesn’t more customers mean more people tipping (assuming they do tip)? If so, doesn’t that curve out at the end of the day? Hell, somebody even did a calculation for the Games – check it here!
And, please, do not bring the “because we are looking over more customers, we are *ahem*entitled*ahem* to more tips” argument. If I were to use that, does that mean that, in an empty restaurant, I can choose not to tip? Oh, wait, I can choose not to but you get the gist of my argument. Also, in other lines of work (read: hourly and salaried), we are not entitled to additional compensation if there is a need to put an additional effort (though, management usually compensate for this with some for of compensation).
There is one thing I must make clear about this argument: It is not directed to waiters and waitresses and bus boy (what would be the feminine of bus boys? Bus girls? Bus ladies???). Unless you are in an union (unless in it is a hotel; in a restaurant business? Unlikely), it is the restaurant who sets the mandatory side of this practice. However, at the same time, I will have to condemn you when you did NOT tell the customers there was a mandatory gratuity was applied (several instances of the restaurants listed above have those comments).
Price increase: In the media, the operator of certain restaurant defended their actions by saying due restrictions imposed to Downtown (in reference to the delivery only during midnight/early hours of the morning bylaw), they had to hire additional staff to tackle this issue. OK, I will have to scratch my head on this one… Long time ago, I had a small business and one thing I learned really fast was the concept of cost of doing business. In a world where change is the only constant, you must always keep yourself prepared for the worst case scenario. In the case of the Olympics, notice of these bylaws were sent out way in advance so you had time to make the appropriate adjustments.
Using that argument as a reference point, does that mean if your stove breaks, you can choose to increase the price of my meal because you need a replacement? Likewise, if you HVAC, dish washer or some other appliance breaks, you will be charging me extra, etc. etc. C’mon people, things like this are things you should have kept into consideration *before* you open for business. But, wait, didn’t I mention there was an increase in business in some of these restaurants? Once again, if that was that case, doesn’t that also mean more business and more revenue to balance the additional staff required?
So, because of the two points above, I have chosen to self-ban myself from the restaurants above for the next 12 months and to be reviewed in the future. This is, of course, a one-man’s thoughts and agenda (*). I will not condemn you if you want there, after all, there is the freedom of choice. Still, I am doing it based on the principle that, during the biggest time of this city, these restaurants chose to be greedy and give a bad impression to visitors. Furthermore, it has set up a precedent and, in the future, they might do this again whenever there is a celebration/event of sorts (like making some streets pedestrians only during weekends in summer). Instead, I will choose to visit those restaurants that played “nice” and did not implement such changes, not to mention those that were hit lightly due to lack of pedestrians in their area (Gastown, West End, et al).
(*) – From a certain extent, except for a couple in the list, it is not a big personal loss, as most of these restaurants are restaurants I wouldn’t have gone by my own choice anyway to begin way *cough*Glowbal*cough*.
Finally, I will leave this space open for restaurants to voice their thoughts, specially if you belong in the list. Likewise if you believe I am wrong, please, let me know.


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Moxie’s? Fairmont? Interesting.
I believe that these days most visitors from overseas are so well informed about policies, rules, do’s and don’ts when they travel, that to impose mandatory tipping is not necessary anymore.
Please add Transcontinental (and perhaps their neighbour / sister restaurant Steamworks) to the list.
As we mentioned tonight we are not fans of auto-grat at all. We were somewhat pissed that we were auto-grat’d (without notice, for the pair of us) during the Olympics and it tainted our experience, to say the least. We would have tipped irregardless of auto or not, but to say that the single bartender tending the bar as well as the surrounding tables *well* would be wrong.
Another concern was the fact that with a lot of the restaurants, the automatic gratuity wasn’t even going to the server, but rather to pad management and owners pockets. (Whole other issue entirely too.)
Personally I’d rather be like the elders in the family at Chinese restaurants – slipping servers money on special occasions when the captains / owners weren’t looking.
Peter, if you follow the link below, the Fairmot might fall into the dubious category. As for tipping, that might be applicable for some people but others don’t. Regardless, you should make visitors welcome, not piss them off.
Jessica, yes, basically if a restaurant that is part of a larger “chain” implemented mandatory tipping, it is banned for me. For example, because one Keg implemented it, I won’t be going to any other Keg, regardless of where it is located.
LOL, my self-imposed restaurant ban list is a bit different. Mostly restaurants that have given me bad food or bad service. You probably know which ones I’m talking about!
Sherman, well, you know me – except for some wacky circumstances, service does not work. As for bad food, there is a slight chance I might give it a try some other time specially if people mention I ordered the wrong item (then again, because I go by myself, I do not order as many dishes as you). And, yes, I have a good idea which ones you are referring to.
As someone who once worked as a server, even I agree that servers aren’t entitled to tip. I’ve worked in other customer service industries where I had to work way harder. Did I ever get a tip? No.
I won’t pretend to know how the restaurant business works, but wouldn’t the extra profit from all the booming business compensate for the early morning/late night deliveries?
Angela, welcome and thanks for your thoughts! I think we are pretty much in line; the only thing I wish was a restaurateur drop by and provide some answers…
Hey Kim : ) Didn’t know if I wanted to put my word into this matter or not.. but heck. Why not.
Perhaps you -should- be directing some of your argument towards the servers. Restaurants don’t directly gain anything in terms of profit when tipping, yea? It goes to the servers, and then a percentage of the tips made from the servers go to the kitchen.
A restaurant would never intentionally harm their business by dissatisfying their customers/means of revenue (as they’ve done for you for example)– unless there was a greater benefit in doing so.
This benefit comes in the form of keeping servers happy, and trust me when I say this is a big issue. What happens when, after an extremely busy night of stressful serving, you finish up and realize you’ve fallen far short of the amount you could have made on a normal night? If serving is your main source of income, that $8/hour really isn’t going to cut it (the reason gratuity is seen as mandatory by many is -because- of this low wage). I’ve seen waitresses walk out during work because of poor tipping and overwork. In fact, I have a co-worker who never shuts up about how she used to make $300 a night and now it’s down to $100. Really. I’m not advocating this type of behaviour, in fact, I rather dislike working with these individuals. But it happens often enough that it becomes a concern for the employer.
On a personal level, I’m completely on the same page as you. I am not entitled to gratuity by any means. However, for many that make their living off these tips and tips fall short because of a culture issues, this strikes a bad relationship between employer and employee. Why didn’t the employer do something to ensure the employee’s wellbeing?
Now, I realize the way the restaurants handled this was in bad taste. They could have created a reminder for customers, maybe raised the wage temporarily during the games. All I’m trying to say is that I understand -why- action was taken.
And I realize that it wasn’t the servers themselves that implemented this rule, but I’m sure none of them were opposed to it either (and quite probably in favour).
In conclusion, perhaps you should be spreading your distaste for these establishments around a little bit. This tipping issue wouldn’t be a problem if not for a horribly demanding and spoiled wait staff.
[And as a final note, I waitress part-time. So yes, I am criticizing my own position. My restaurant however did not deal with the Olympics and tipping issue, as we are not in the Vancouver area. Lost business actually... hehe;;]
I think that Milestones dealt with the tricky issue well. Instead of imposing automatic gratuities, they included a card (in 12 different lamguages) in every bill which explains tipping practices in Canada. Then it was still up to the customer to choose whether or not to tip, and how much to give.
Similar to what Angela argued, I don’t believe servers are entitled to tip. Many people make their livings off other customer service positions yet they don’t receive tips. If a sales associate goes out of their way and help a customer put together an amazing outfit and then continues to suggest places for appropriate accessories, does she/he receive tips? Absolutely not. The idea doesn’t even pop in the customer’s mind. The wage is the employer’s responsibility, not the customer’s.
I’m with Beth, the Milestone’s example made much more sense. Also with auto-grat on a different scale, how about cruise lines? I’ve been on many cruises and once they moved towards auto-grat, I found the service to be worse and worse. Nothing like a bit of complacency to create an environment where no one cares.
I know we’re on the same page here with tips not being an obligation and what not pattie, but I thought I’d comment on what you said with the tips.
It’s true that the idea of tipping doesn’t cross a customers mind when a sales associate aids the customer, but that’s because such employees are often already compensated by commission. Just wanted to point that out.. But yes, it’s the employer’s responsibility to enforce how the wage is presented (and in the sales associates case, that gets enforced through commission).
That being said, -how- it is presented becomes the main issue. I’ve experienced the same thing as Sherman with the auto-grat, so no. I don’t think it’s a great means to generate the wages. I also agree that the cards are a good idea. But again, the issue becomes: will it be enough? Not in terms of the amount of tips for the server, but enough to keep the server out of the employers hair.
I’ve seen some pretty demanding servers.
It’s not pretty.
On top of that, creating the cards may be costly. Can the restaurant afford it?
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